Haymarket Affair Digital Collection

Illinois vs. August Spies et al. trial transcript no. 1
Affidavits of Thomas J. Morgan, Thomas S. Morgan and Michael Cull, 1886 Oct. 1-1886 Oct. 7.

Volume O, 76-79, 4 p.
Morgan, Thomas J.
Morgan, Thomas S.
Cull, Michael.

Affiant Thomas J. Morgan states that he knows T. E. Denker, a juror in the case of Illinois v. August Spies et al., and that on May 6, 1886 he heard Denker state that the "whole damn crowd ought to be hung" referring to those arrested in the case. Affiant Thomas S. Morgan, the son of Thomas J. Morgan, who was with his father during the conversation had been with him and T. E. Denker during this conversation, confirmed his father's affidavit.

Affiant Michael Cull who knows G. W. Adams, a juror in the case of Illinois v. August Spies et al., swears that shortly after the Haymarket bombing in conversation with Adams, Adams stated that "the police ought to have shot them all down and that if I was on the jury I'd hang all the damned buggers."


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CAPTAIN BLACK: Touching the matter of the jurors we submit three affidavits.

People v Spies et al, -- murder.

Criminal Court of Cook County.

State of Illinois Cook County ss

Thomas J. Morgan, being duly sworn on oath says; that he is a citizen of the United States, and of the State of Illinois, residing at Woodlawn Park, Cook County, Illinois, where he has resided for about four years past, having lived in Illinois since 1869, except two years of residence in the State of Michigan. That he personally well knows T. E. Denker , of Woodlawn park, who was one of the jurors upon the late trial of August Spies, Michael Schwab, Albert R.Parsons, Oscar Neebe, Samuel Fielden, Adolph Fischer Louis Lingg and George Engel, for the murder of Mathias J. Degan. That on the morning of May 6th 1886, on the depot platform at Woodlawn Park aforesaid, affiant was conversing with his son, and referring to an alleged protrait of August Spies, printed in the Chicago Herald, which was printed in connection with the report of the arrest of said Spies, Schwab, Fielden, Fisher and others for alleged responsibility for the Haymarket massacre, so-called, of May 4th. Affiant stated to his said son that said picture did not look any more like said Spies than it did like affiant; whereupon said Denker stated with much feeling and emphasis, in effect as follows: It don't make any difference whether it is like him or


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not--- he and the whole damned crowd ought to be hung-- referring to those reported as arrested as above mentioned.

Affiant further states that he is not and never has been an Anarchist.

Thomas J. Morgan.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 9th day of September, 1886.

(Seal) Rollin P. Blanchard,
Notary Public.

State of Illinois Cook County ss

Thomas S. Morgan being duly sworn, on oath says; that he is the son of Thomas J. Morgan whose name is subscribed to the foregoing affidavit; and affiant is now living with his said father, and is working in the pattern makers department of the Illinois Central Railroad Company of Chicago: That he has heard read the foregoing affidavit subscribed by his father. That he is personally acquainted with said T. E. Denker in said affidavit mentioned, and well remembers the incident referred to as occurring on the morning of May 6th, 1886, on the depot platform at Woodlawn Park, Cook County Illinois, and the remark then made by said Denker. That answering the remark of affiant's father that the picture in the Chicago Herald looked no more like said Spies than it did like said T. J. Morgan, said Denker said with much feeling and emphasis, in substance, and as nearly as affiant can remember


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in words as follows: It don't make any difference whether it is like him or not, he and the whole damned crowd ought to be hung, referring as affiant understood to said Spies and the other parties reported in the papers as having been arrested May 5th, 1886 on account of the Haymarket affair. Affiant is not an Anarchist nor a member of any socialistic, communistic, or anarchistic group or society.

T. S. Morgan.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 9th day of September, 1886.

Rollin P. Blanchard,
(Seal) Notary Public.

State of Illinois, Cook County. ss

IN THE CRIMINAL COURT.

The People of the State of Illinois,
vs
August Spies et al

Indictment for murder.

Michael Cull, being on oath first duly sworn deposes and saith, that he is 34 years of age and by occupation a plasterer and resides at the corner of Clark street and Benson Avenue, Evanston and has resided in Evanston, Cook County, Illinois, for about 24 years; that affiant is a married man and resides with his family at the above place. Affiant further states that he is well acquainted with and knows for 15 years last passed G. W. Adams of Evanston Ill where affiant resides, that said Adams was one of the jurors who sat in the above entitled cause on the trial of said


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defendants and rendered a verdict therein. That shortly after the occurrence of the Haymarket affair affiant, said Adams and a number of others whose names affiant does not now remember were together on said street in the vicinity of affiant's said house talking about said affair; that affiant in said conversation said "that the police had no right to interfere with the meeting, that if they (the police) had let the meeting alone they would have gone home in a little while," to which said G W Adams, said person who sat on said jury said "that the police ought to have shot them all down, that they (meaning the defendants) had no right in this country, and that if I was on the jury I'd hang all the damned buggers." That said G. W. Adams evinced a good deal of bitter feeling against said defendants.

That at the time said Adams was examined as to his qualifications for a juror and his examination published and read by this affiant, affiant noticed that said Adams replied that he had no prejudice against said defendants, that affiant told several persons that his answers were untrue. That his affiant did not in any way inform said defendants or their counsel as to the feeling entortained by G. W. Adams. And further affiant saith not.

Michael Cull.

Subscribed and sworn to before me this 30th day of September, A.D. 1886.

Moses Salomon,
Notary Public. (SEAL)

Subscribed and sworn to before me this first day of October, A.D. 1886.

John Stephens,
Clerk of the Criminal Court of Cook County.


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